macOS Big Sur’s Big Secret

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The visual changes to macOS Big Sur are actually the small part. Snazzy Labs explains why the Mac will soon gain a touchscreen.
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Apple announced macOS 11 Big Sur to much surprise this last week at WWDC. Along with the transition to ARM came a bevy of visual changes (we won’t call them upgrades, per se) and the announcement that Apple Silicon Macs would be able to run iOS apps without modification. Not only that, but that Apple would be placing all iPad and iPhone apps available to download in the Apple Silicon Mac App Store by default unless the developer specifically states that they don’t want it listed. A bunch of multi-touch apps and games require touch input, however, and we’re as sure as ever that touchscreen Macs are on the horizon despite Apple’s insistence that they’re not coming soon. We talk about visual indications we’ve found hidden in macOS Big Sur that help argue why macOS Big Sur hidden secrets hint at a touch-capable future. #macOS #BigSur #SnazzyLabs

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  • This update couldn't be a more obvious indication that apple is gearing up the Mac for touch based displays.

  • No touchscreen macs

  • Yeah, it would feel like using a Chromebook with Android apps but with no touchscreen support

  • Touch screen Macs will never coming buddy, my iPad Pro look dirt with my finger and some websites force to rotate my iPad to view the website

  • 13 minutes to say that you think touch screen Macs are coming because UI elements are too big/chunky for a mouse, yet well suited to a finger. Saved you 13 minutes.

  • Yes, I'm agreed with you. Probably Touchscreen Mac will come soon. But, also if you want to control your Mac from iPad, you use Sidecar, right? (Sorry, I'm never using macOS or iPadOS at home, so please correct me if I wrong) Maybe That Changes designed for Sidecar with Direct Finger Touch Support. Because Quinn said in later video If you cannot use your finger for Controlling your Mac from iPad with Sidecar, You need an Apple Pencil for it.

  • Phones with physical keyboards...*GREAT IDEA*

  • It makes sense to make Macbook touch screened only when it's a 2 in one laptop. Otherwise it's a waste of efforts.

  • Pen based touchscreen macs would be revolutionary in the digital arts scene. So many artists buy a Mac because it's the best place for programs like Photoshop, being able to draw directly on screen instead of on a tablet would be the biggest revolution in Macs ever.

  • Great informative video... please movie your cue cards to the location of the camera. Please. :)

  • Im scared of the next update

  • You looked at my profile pic before reading my comment

  • Nope, nopiddy nope, nope... Not for me at least. I already spend way too much time fastidiously cleaning dust and smudges on my screen, almost daily, without ever having even touched it (including top-case, keyboard etc). I personally can't stand touch screens for anything but a mobile device. Even if they were to make a touch enabled MacBook / Pro, I would never use that feature, because I'd never get any work done due to the incessant need to clean the paw prints off my screen after every few minutes of interaction. Let's also not forget that it completely defeats the purpose of anti-glare on glossy displays. I'm sure there are others out there, that would actually be fine with it, but by the end of a day, it would look like someone barfed all over the screen, and you'd have weird visual artefacts caused by light refracting through the finger oils, and grime that would be attracted to it.

  • Mac Computers are so behind Windows 10 Computers that is unfair to even compare lol

  • I see nothing too alarming with the option to make the menu bar larger. I actually wanted that when i used my 27 monitor on native 4k, small UI mode.

  • This all sounds like Apple is trying to make a more organic ecosystem. At the end of the day, all I want is to transfer files and apps in the most seamless s way possible.

  • I don’t want a touchscreen, it will just add cost to the iMac/iMac Pro. Maybe for a laptop. But for a 27” or larger screen, no way. I already have back problems. I love my 12.9” iPad Pro and I love my iMac and I can use Sidecar, Pencil, and sync everything through handoff and iCloud (w/my iPhone too). Is it all perfect? No, but its pretty good. At no point have I wanted to reach out and paw at my iMac screen. Maybe if the Pencil had a laser pointer or something 😂!

  • A good video, but you talk too fast!

  • Ugh, the out-of-context stylus-iPad quote again

  • well, its indirectly happening already with the ipad on MacOS. there is the new option of using it as a controller of the mac. I guess it is a bridge at least for now

  • Dear Snazzy, what monitor stand are you using in that video?

  • touch screen mac? man they would take the touch screen from the ipad if it where possible. lol

  • if touch screen macs where to happen , it would cost more than a cyber truck

  • As a Windows user I just want to say to all Apple user : it will take time, it's gone hurt but after a few years you will be happy about this change. But it's their is no guarantee that you don't lose a large part of the Mac experience.

  • The big secret about Big Sur? Yeah.. The secret is you just got scammed into buying ordinary everyday hardware overpriced by about 400% with it being assembled by slaves. SURPRISE!

  • The are lying to slow down competition. And then one day look we did it and we did not copy anyone.

  • What if they added the apple pen for mac?

  • 2:30 Jobs was wrong when you use your convertible like a tablet. Most of the time I use my Surface with the keyboard and and the pen. I would not use it with touch only.

  • I blame V-Sauce for this now copied-to-death over animated presentation style where....everything isn't a question....or is it....and ...endless...gags.....what happened to being original. Stopped watching. Yeah, first world problem I know. Maybe I am too old to "get it".

  • I'm not interested in a touch screen Mac

  • You have the capability and opportunity to test any of these theories, by simply building a hackintosh with a laptop that has a touchscreen. I've done it. On Big Sur even. Yes things are bigger and "easier to touch", however No it is not a pleasant experience nor does it seem like it was designed for that. Could my experience be due to touchscreen drivers implementation? Maybe, idk, other multitouch gestures work just fine on it and just as smooth as one would expect from a trackpad. I think the mixed ergonomics of an iPad with keyboard/mouse might seem like it translates to a laptop as well, and maybe even will for something the macbook air or 13" MBP size, but those ergonomics don't translate to 15-16" sized workstation level laptops. Additionally, you're thought that you can only do multitouch the way they do it in the simulator by pressing cmd and moving the cursor around, you're ignoring the fact that mac trackpads were some of the first touch devices to actually even SUPPORT multitouch. Macs support an array of multitouch gestures already and have before iOS devices even existed. with that you're ignoring the possibility of a multi-cursor environment to visually track multiple finger positions on a trackpad when playing multi-touch-required games, easily mitigating any compatibility requirements with multitouch apps without compromising the ergonomics.

  • Sometimes I wonder if these get implemented for an actual release and then apple watches these reviews and go “well time to scrap that idea”

  • 10:23 you could also use a Magic Trackpad to multitouch and have a cursor like the iPad's which adjusts it's size and shape to fit the buttons it's trying to press. Looking forward to touch Macs.

  • Don't touch my iMac 27" display! Fingerprints are not welcome.

  • I had a theory when the butterfly keyboards first came out. They have barely any key travel. They also released the trackpad with an immovable button and haptic feedback. My prediction was that they would replace the keyboard with a giant trackpad using haptic feedback to simulate button presses. The butterfly key was created to "train" us to be okay with very small key travel. Time will tell but that's my theory.

  • I had the same thoughts and they are 100% correct. The only question is timing. We might one more full generation without touch support. From there they may as well change all the OS names to match what they really are: [hardware]OS. phoneOS, padOS, macOS, watchOS. All practically the same reactive OS. Then the devices can be called apple phone, apple pad, apple mac, and apple watch. My concern is that they will be tempted to shut down the platform like they have for iphone and applewatch. They need to be fought on this front now for the iphone as I'd hate to see apple harm their own platform. Otherwise, it's all quite brilliant and the long term planning is impressive. They pull this off and offer a relatively inexpensive mac -> that would give microsoft a run for their money. So much depends on apple keeping an open platform and enabling web apps though ...

  • I’m hoping the new design of the iMac is going to have an adjustable stand that can turn the screen into a giant iPad Pro basically, with Apple Pencil support. So that you can draw, take notes, etc. You can then attach the pencil to the top of the iMac when done. I’m thinking the new design will basically just be a giant 27 inch iPad Pro with facial recognition for unlocking too.

  • Has anyone here considered that they might be adding touch capabilities via their AR glasses rather an actual touch screen? That would even allow older macs that are due to get Big Surr to operate with the same feature sets as a new fancy mac running apple silicon. -(and of course, they get their extra hardware sale)-

  • What if: most of the hardware stays in the keyboard section and the screen only contains a small battery and streaming hardware like airplay 3 whenever that comes out. When you undock the screen it seamlessly switches from direct connect to airplay mode and you could do stuff like 4K video editing or 3D work from anywhere in your house whilst your hardware station stays connected with all your hard drives, NAS servers and other accessories. That way you’ll have all the power you need in a super light and portable package, i could see that being useful from time to time :)

  • You could be right but it could be also just them unifying low level APIs so they can write one code and use it everywhere optimizing expensive programmer time in process.

  • "are you merging ios and macos?? No of course not" HAHahahahahha best joke I ever heard.

  • Apple probably wants to keep certain devices separate because that’s what its meant to be not to mention the fact not everything is meant to be amplified truthfully somethings just don’t need to be on everything also they would lose loads of money a touch screen Mac should be it’s own device if anything

  • I’m just hoping I can instal macOS 11 on my iPad Pro.

  • Way back before the turn of the century I wrote a web column for a long gone site in which I described a Mac of the future, thinking it would be available around 2015 at the latest. The OS would adjust to whatever size device you wanted to use at the time, and the biggest Mac would be almost a literal desktop, kind of like all the sci-fi movies show. If you’re drawing or drafting a house plan, you use it flat and with a stylus, but you could just flip it up near vertical and pull out your keyboard and mouse to use it for text or spreadsheets or whatever works best in that orientation. It seemed like an obvious thing to predict, but if your head is inside the Cupertino bubble, lots of things that other people think are obvious are not obvious to you. I’m happy they are finally (I hope) getting around to making such a machine.

  • I don't want a touchscreen mac, personally. I want an ARM based 13" macbook in the current air form-factor. I would like to see how much performance they can eek out of an ARM CPU with the same cooling provided by the air platform.

  • Ok I'm not the only one who thought that at 1:24 he was gonna say "becuase it's expensive

  • Red circle. YOU SEE REED CIRCLE. WHAT DO YOU DO? Answer: click

  • 0:11 0:37 1:58 3:09 4:14 6:26 8:39 10:06 10:19 11:50 12:16

  • big sewer

  • Hahaha you are so right

  • What feels off is the 11

  • That is because... Mac OS Big Sur is coming to iPad Pro

  • Ive been an ipad stan since the ipad mini. Yall said theyd never be a main device but i KNEW

  • As long as touch is not required well, I have no problem with it. That said i would hate using touch on my computer, as the screen will become unbearably dirty. I have an iPad and that is easily my biggest issue with that particular device I hate looking at a greasy fingerprinty screen but it is almost impossible to avoid.

  • Use to the natural implementation of a touch screen on my windows pc laptop, the ipad is a glimpse into the future of apple imo. It is a great hybrid balance with the magic keyboard. Can't wait for a touchscreen MacBook pro

  • Great video, one of your best yet. Snazzy!

  • Okay, Windows 10 often has large spacing and pretty much no one complains about it so when it come to MacOS I think that's just a really nit picky non issue. Also touch screens on windows laptops is mostly just a gimic for most device the touch screen is seldomly used.

  • You have great ideas. Have you considered working for Apple? I think you could bring positive change to the company

  • It seems a bit naive to believe that the Mac won't end up with touch, despite what Phil said. The world changes, Apple changes, users change and so do products and features.

  • All I can say is I have a touch screen windows laptop and I only touch it by mistake

  • iMac Pro will be the first with pen and touch input. iPad pro design language etc. At least, I wish it will be

  • Wow, good insight. Probably prescient.

  • What is the game at 3:35?

  • I hate the argument against a touchscreen. I’d rather have a feature there that I don’t need but have an option to use then want a feature and don’t have it.

  • Oh, they are coming. Just because Steve said no before he died doesn't mean it won't happen. Steve and Jonny are gone and when Apple makes something based on what already exists, they are like the Japanese- they improve it; not only that, they take that idea and make it work. Sure, they have had their follies like any other company, but they either lead, or they recycle someone else's idea and make it better (like a Metallica cover song).

  • An iMac with a very small bezel and a stand that could swing the display towards the user (bottom edge on the desk and top edge 4--6" above the desk) might work for games and art but touch screen is irrelevant for spreadsheets, document creation, coding, etc. A laptop with a design similar to the iPad Pro keyboard (again allowing one to move the display into an angled position) would be quite good, however it would kill sales of iPads - so we will never see it. As a user of a MacPro 5,1 with 96Gb RAM and six 28" 4k monitors I am much more interested in any Apple Silicon upgrade to the 2019 MacPro - I'm glad that I have not yet upgraded. And as for Apple supporting 3rd party external touch-screen displays... well I'm not going to hold my breath or buy multiple XDR-touch displays (£10000 plus?). If Apple has a good strategy they need to be more forthcoming with their road-map so that people can plan. Again, breath holding is not recomened.

  • This video is 100% right. While the merging of input methods is acceptable on the iPad Pro as an extension of its use domain, and could be acceptable on a laptop, it is not acceptable when it comes to a large desktop computer: you don’t want to lose screen estate and make your mouse travel twice as much because of larger UI elements, you don’t want your arms in the air, you don’t want to spread finger grease on the screen, especially when you’re a pro user, say a graphic designer. This is preposterous. Apple running after Microsoft is not a good idea for them. Losing their ergonomics good sense either.

  • What if I told you they do this spacing and stuff because u can stream from macOS to iPadOS?

  • Its pronounced "Big Sir" not "Big Sor"

  • Is it a valid reason to not want touchscreen Macs simply because I hate thinking about how a lovely, bright 5K display will look covered with greasy fingerprints....

  • I'd be interested to hear your insights on windows 10x and its UI language when it finally makes a debut. Panos has been talking a big game.

  • I forget why I even clicked on this video. Waiting for a big secret. Clicking through 13 minutes of garbage. See description, yeah... just apple catching up again.

  • The fact that apple didn't come out with a surface studio like product first is what told me the company is truly dying. They used to lead innovation in the industry. What do they do now?

  • Nice burn at 1:42

  • Big Sur on iPad Pro is a better angle on this topic

  • let's just say apple made apple silicone touch screen MacBooks and only enable touch input for catalyst app, would that make sense to us? I do somewhat believe that apple will make touch screen MacBook someday but I think they will limit touch area or something similar

  • Huh it can't outperform windows 10 and UWP apps

  • who are you to say that Jobs was wrong. Times have changed and so the technology and the requirements of people. Jobs was right at that time, & don't forget that apple is because of JOBS. So please have some respect for him and stop saying that he was wrong. That kind of statement hurts.

  • Where's the big secret again? Clickbait and really senseless video. And wrong on many levels regarding usability of Mac OS.

  • Touch on a desktop is just stupid as sliced bread was a great idea

  • 9:46 lmao cydia and unc0ver

  • Big sir is ugly and extremely slow I’m moving to windows or Linux mac is terrible software

  • I feel this is the downfall of mac os...

  • 07:06 "Big Sur" in captions is "Big Sewer" 🤣

  • 8:05 - exactly me thoughts during the presentation! Why would they design all new switches like that?! Does not make any sense when using a mouse. Too fat, too much travel. I‘m 100% sure with Apple Silicon MacOS and iOS especially iPadOS are going to be merging. On going separation wouldn‘t make any sense: Same chipsets (kind of), same architecture, same app foundation. I mean, that‘s they way it has to be with that and the possibilities are unheard of! I‘m expecting a MacBook / MacBookPro with iPad like features, like touchscreen in the same way as the iPad matures into a real computer. And it absolutely makes sense. All those statements about interfaces where just a picture of the moment.

  • The Surface Studio... really.... have one in the office... its always on the lowest angle because its just working as a Whiteboard... nothing else... pen input not touch.... mouse because Win10 still isnt there yet...

  • To Apple.... not only is touch ergonomically terrible, so are your keyboards!

  • I'm not sure about everyone else, but I find it really odd that people think we need an app for everything on a desktop/laptop environment. Like, who is going to use a twitter app instead of the twitter website on a desktop??? That is simply too inconvenient to have to open all of these separate applications when it is already streamlined using browsers...

    • Web apps suck compared to native ones. This is a well-known fact.

  • Using Apple Product is totally waist of money, COST VERY HIGH BUT LOW SPECIFY, compare to Samsung and Huawei....

  • apple is surely at a crossroads. i for one will wait until the dust settles in a few years to decide if i will indeed switch from windows to macos. but times are exciting.

  • I. Hate. Touchscreens. User errors on steroids.

  • It will be a MacBook air which will really be an iPad pro with a solid keyboard

  • I still think a touchscreen on a laptop/desktop is an awful idea. I know everybody disagrees with me. But a lot of bad ideas are popular. Pet rocks were once popular too.

  • Anybody explain how he is he playing Wind Waker with an XBOX controller on an iPad at 3:37?

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  • Even he has to share Netflix with others

  • Apple is moving people from iMac to iCrap do you want one😜

  • I wonder if they will bring macos support to ipads

  • Another good analysis. Thank you. Maybe the roll out of the hardware has been constrained by COVID. Standby to standby.

  • It makes sense on a MacBook but not on a desktop I can’t see any comfortable scenario where reaching at full stretch across a desk, the width and working height of a 27” or 32” display would ever be comfortable, not for 12 hour work days. I’d rather use a Wacom with a larger desktop display. Plus trying to retouch with ANY fingerprints on a screen is annoying as it stands I can’t begin to entertain the idea of working with a never ending layer of fingerprints and smudges all over the image I’m working on. Any time saved in navigation is negated by constantly having to clean the display.

  • I've had a Windows laptop with a touchscreen since 2012. That is how far Apple is behind.

    • Etek Dav I’ve hade a windows laptop with a cd drive since 2004. That is how far Apple is behind