Riding Berm Peak at Night was more difficult and foolish than I thought

Dipublikasikan tanggal 21 Mei 2022
This has been a long time coming. Anyone who watches this channel knows I love night riding, but until now I have never attempted to ride Berm Peak at night. This is due to a variety of reasons, most of which should be pretty obvious. Bike lights are designed for singletrack-not wallrides and whale tails. Tonight, we throw caution to the wind and give it a shot on my backyard mountain bike trails.

Also tonight, we’ll test out some new lights from Outbound Lighting. I met the owner of the company at Sedona Mountain Bike Festival, holding down the booth all by himself. Tom is not only an entrepreneur, but an engineer, so we can be sure Outbound’s marketing department isn’t getting in the way of the important stuff. These lights were remarkably simple, free of gimmicks, very well thought out, and very bright. They also turn on and off with simple taps of the power button instead of confounding combinations that so many other manufacturers insist on. Best of all, they’re really fairly priced for what you’re getting. So I’m going to run these long term and see how they work out!

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  • I just like seeing videos where Seth is actually riding again. I get he's a dad now and cant afford another broken collar bone but it's always nice to see.

    • @John Goblikon uh no not really a stupid reason

    • @Evan Weiler literally no one said anything about giving up your hobbies besides you lmao, if youre a dad of a newborn or small child you dont need to be mountainbiking in the dark🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Joe Ovenden you are too

    • @cLab2022 ur hard man

    • @Geddy Oh my bad, I live in Europe. Finalnd to be exact. If I broke my collar bone, the surgery plus a week or two in the hospital would probably cost me $1000 at most.

  • What stands out to me that I feel sometimes goes unnoticed, is how far cameras (action cameras especially) have progressed. Amazes me how high quality and smooth the footage is with just two lights at night.

    • Its probably because the camera and light are mounted at the same point. Either the helmet or body? {just guessing btw}

    • That's the benefit of manually setting exposure. Don't leave that shit on auto if you can help it.

    • They are really bright lights though, so that helps.

    • I was going to mention the great video quality for night

  • Seth: Let's make a super sketchy trail system in my backyard! Also Seth: What if we made it even sketchier?

    • A little bit different, but kinda the same

  • Love my outbound lighting setup. Have never had a situation where I didn’t have enough light. One pro tip for you Seth, not sure if he mentioned it. They have a clip available for the underside of the bar light that your cables/hoses go into so they don’t bounce in front of the light. Noticed you didn’t have it.

    • Cable manager was a game changer for me! Awesome light! I've had multiple niteriders and other various ebay lights outbound is by far the best.

    • @Tom Place Totally understable, keep killing it!

    • @aidan burns yeah we don’t include it with every light because we’ve found only ~20% of customer bikes need it (just the ones that need it tend to really need it…), so we don’t want to make every light more expensive for 80% of them to end up in the landfill, working on a more eco-friendly solution long term!

    • @Berm Peak Express I second this person. Outbound light is the best bike light I’ve ever used and I will never use another light especially for my road bike their road addition with the sharp cut off line like a car headlight is a complete game changer for riding where you might blind oncoming traffic or pedestrians

    • @Berm Peak Express it’s a must have in my opinion. Wish it was included with the light but well worth it either way.

  • I can 100% say that Seth has taught me everything I know about Bikes and trails

    • At least 5% of bike knowledge is Park Tool exclusive, so just… okay? XP

    • Let’s not go that far

  • Plus 1 for Outbound Lighting… the Hangover helmet light with the Trail EVO bar light is the best combo out there … I’ve met and ridden with Tom (owner/engineer of Outbound) in Pisgah - he absolutely shreds

    • @Austenit Ferrit they redid their mount last year / it’s solid. Worth mentioning, you probably don’t want a fully rigid, unmovable mount. in case of a crash, you’d rather the mount give way before the energy of the impact transfer to the light itself or the bars causing worse damage to more expensive parts

    • Just looked at their website. Honestly für 240 bucks the mounting system of the flood light looks a little bit weak/plasticy to me. Lupine offers an metal brace for mounting...

  • Imagine how cool some long exposure photos of Seth riding some obstacles with his lights on would look. It might be a cool idea for a t-shirt graphic too

  • I hope Outbound get a ton of sales from this video. These lights are awesome!

    • @tweaker_on_a_bike That's awesome!

    • I love mine I use them to dumpster dive and burglarize buildings

    • They’re the best. Love my set

  • Testament to how good a rider Seth is

    • He doesn't give himself enough credit. To ride like this, especially after such a bad injury, he's got it nailed on the bike and in his head.

  • It would actually be pretty cool if you added lights along the runs. It would double the ride time in the fall and early spring.

  • Night riding is so much fun I like the eerie feeling in the middle of the desert hearing the owls and seeing the night hawks flying around. Seeing the eyes glowing back at you is also creepy but cool to see.

  • I’ve been running that same OB Lighting combo for the past season and a half and I’m a huge fan! Great battery life, lights up my trails perfectly! As a matter of fact, I’ve scored a good amount of PRs at night with these lights. And their customer service is spot on! I had to get a part replaced, and they were so cool about everything, sending me a replacement for free. Needless to say, I’m a satisfied customer. I’m interested to see your long-term review on these lights.

  • I have a set of Outbound mtb lights (and a road light as well) and they're honestly the best investment I've made for extending my riding into late fall when the weather is crispy and perfect but gets dark early. The owner/designer Matt is a sharp dude, a huuuuuge MTB enthusiast, and is easy to talk to. I recommend these lights to everyone who asks about lights, and most of my friends have them because of seeing mine in person. They're definitely a step up in price compared to the basic generic stuff you can find online, but they rival/beat the best stuff on the market regardless of price. With 3 years of use on Outbound products, I'm a huge fan. I'm surprised Seth hasn't found these sooner.

  • Good to see that Outbound Lighting is getting some spotlight. I've had the Evo combo since they first introduced it. Lights are great. The company also has some of the best customer service I've ever experienced.

  • I highly recommend trying this with just a head mounted light. It always seems like more light is better, but the head mount is always naturally pointing where you want to look (and go). I've found that if you have both, the handlebar mounted one can actually distract you in weird ways.

    • @David Hamm you’re actually onto something there: any helmet light will make trails look flat, because the light is above your eye-line and thus produces no shadows from objects sticking up out of the trail, so rock gardens look smooth, which makes them harder to read in general, especially at speed. That’s why having a super wide handlebar beam pattern is helpful (so it covers everything regardless of where your bars are pointing) by casting shadows out that you can look down into, which make the terrain look 3D. Helmet lights are good to point down trail at speed and around tight corners, but having them overpowered and down-angled wash out all the definition you get from a bar-mounted light, which makes it harder to read the trail. Narrow beams with harsh edges (really sharp circular spots in particular) can be even more distracting, particularly on the bars, which is why it’s really important to have wide, even illumination from the bars.

    • I mounted 2 lights on my bars and one on top of the helmet and found I kept crashing. Best I can assume it's that there were no shadows which washed out ground and rock features, so I rode straight into and over obstacles I'd normally avoid easily.

    • Ive done the same! all about the helmet light only! I will add, that it sucks if you get distracted and look away from the trail tho

  • That night ride was super engaging. Really felt like we were going down the mountain with you. Keep up the great work!

  • Thrilled to see some love for Outbound Lighting. Been using their older style Road and Trail lights for a few years now, great stuff. Good fun to run both of those lights AND the Hangover; feels like daytime.

  • I feel like Seth doing this at night is how it actually feels for anyones first time at berm peak. The lights sorta get rid of that GoPro effect. Full sends from Seth!!

  • I really like how "raw" this video was when he was riding I found it very relaxing you can hear the wheels and the wind

    • That night ride was super engaging. Really felt like we were going down the mountain with you. Keep up the great work!

  • Holy moly that even got my heart up! the most involved video I think Seth has ever put out. Having the tunnel vision from the dark really pulls you in...

  • I love night riding! Makes your home trails feel brand new! Look like great lights!

  • No joke Outbound lighting is the absolute best there is. They're also some of the nicest people you will ever meet.

  • I am a big fan of Outbound lights. I am running the Hangover on my helmet, and the EVO on my bars. Great setup.

  • Haven't watched this yet, but just want to say, me and my friends used to do night rides constantly, more than daytime rides. And I loved every minute of it. I found I rode better and had more fun. With a great light on the trail it helped me focus on things in the distance and not worry about what was under the wheels. I always got into a flow state much easier on night rides.

  • Seth: Let's make a super sketchy trail system in my backyard! Also Seth: What if we made it even sketchier?

  • Seth, great idea! Hang some solar powered LED flood lights at each feature. Add an extension to the power switch so you can hang them high but turn them on/off as needed. Really miss you building out more features. Maybe something after the Maim Frame?

  • Finally! A full-fledged video with night riding. I ride at night myself, although not so good, but I understand what it's about, my feelings are aggravated, the feeling of speed multiplies by 2 and you just get incredibly high from what is happening. Thanks!

  • You’re the gold standard for everyman MTB content, Seth. Been a fan since the beginning. You keep getting better. Proud of what you’ve accomplished, my man. 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

    • Holy moly that even got my heart up! the most involved video I think Seth has ever put out. Having the tunnel vision from the dark really pulls you in...

  • Ive been using outbound lights for about 2 years. They are great! They replaced my niteriders i used for a few years prior and they are definitely worth the change. BTW, If i recall correctly, the hanglover (headlight) is built to accept go pro camera mounts. Double check it if interested.

    • @WhaTsApchat±④④⑦④③⑧⓪②⑧②⓪⑥ Yeah ain't no one gonna believe this is the channel that we're on

  • These videos are my go to for getting back into trails and biking. Thanks Seth! Also how about getting Kyle to do snakepit backwards at night?

  • Been watching your videos for around 4 years now, Always makes my day seeing you uploaded!

  • Night riding is awesome as you can actually see how fast you’re riding. I’m sure if you put this side by side with another ride down berm peak the day time footage will look a lot slower.

  • Love my outbound lights. Have been running them for 4+ years.

  • Night riding is my absolute favorite! Me and my buddies go on evening rides once a week at 6pm on Tuesday. It's like a tradition of ours. During the winter and fall months those rides are completely dark, but we all have great lights (I don't have Outbound yet but plan to for this upcoming season; one of my friends rides with them and they're legit nice and bright). The darkness really spices things up, making features you've ridden many times feel completely different!

  • didn’t think my day could get any better, get to miss school for a week because of covid now i can watch a berm peak video

    • same - except it sucks not to see your friends

    • Yep. Except school = work

    • same

    • That’s what I’m doing

    • Dude I’m in your same situation lol

  • You can almost feel the humidity in this video lol. Especially in that closing shot of Seth.

  • I live down in Tasmania, Australia and I've been running some Serfas lights for a few years that weren't too expensive. 1600 lumen for the flood and 1000 for the helmet. Great for winter when it gets dark at 5pm and you can't ride after work otherwise. Enjoyed the video, wouldn't do crazy features like that though hahaha

    • Tassie's the best! Maydena + Derby = 😄

  • When I was riding at night for the first time in the winter I did so at some off piste trails local to home. Somehow I managed to pick up PBs on my runs… maybe I was dealing with things as I went rather than overthinking it but either way it was great!

  • Gotta say I’m glad I bought some outbound lights before this video dropped cause there’s no way they will be in stock now xD

  • I owned the evo and loved it! Still the widest beam I've owned... always wanted to do 2 on the bars... I went a different route(4x4 pods/m18) due to kelvin hue You see so much better with a legit amber, yellow or green light than any white light(blue hue being the worse) and battery burntime and charge time. They also attract less bugs! My theory on light setups changed.. New theory that makes most sense is offroad shaped wide beams on helmet and Street (cutoff beam) on bars Any good wide beam will have a good enough throw as we dont go fast enough to outrun it(spots are crap) But your longest throw light on bar as you only need to see far when going straight anyways. Widest on helmet because you not only see where your pointed, but more peripheral vision as well . Beam with cutoff on bar due to being more headlight level, too high when on helmet. As for jumping in dark...any cheap light( I'd still go wide beam/novsight 1600) pointed down so you can always see your landing!

  • As much as I enjoy the Berm Peak videos, my favourite videos have always been the ones where he goes on riding adventures with the boys like Alex and Phil. This video reminds me of those good old days lol

  • I love this challenge! I'm no mountain biker but I still really enjoy your videos.

  • You're an excellent presenter dude. I love the way those lights look.

  • Last Fall and Winter were my first season of Outbound lighting on my bars. They are great. Just the fact that you can film with a GoPro which aren't great in low lighting, proves how good these light s are! Great video Seth!

  • Crazy video !!! Thanks for taking the lead on making it🙏🏼 Maybe down the road with the budget, the park could get sone solar light s throughout the park for some night riding? That would be fun 🤙🏼

  • I love watching Seth’s videos that are so cool 😎

  • Your the one who got me in to mountain biking thank you

  • Always a good time with you Seth! Cheers!

  • Que the exited seth noises. I loved hearing such exitement and the rush of adrenaline coming out of Seth! That's the Seth I started watching a while ago. Welcome back mate!

  • I used to LOVE night riding! I ran 2 floods on the handlebars for a wider beam and a spot. But the BIGGEST game changer is a flood under the lower tube. It shines down where your front wheel is and shines forward on jumps. It allows you to run your flood lights slightly higher as well. Game. Changer.

  • Love Outbound lighting, Matt and Tom are awesome. My first light, the road light, went on a commuter ebike, I hard wired it and Matt let me know what voltage would be optimal, he even let me buy the light without the battery. My second light is the one Seth is using on the handlebars and it had a small issue with the power switch stiffness and Tom got it taken care of super quick. The beam on these lights are the best in my opinion, each model has a specific purpose and puts the light where it’s needed and doesn’t waste precious lumens dumping light where it isn’t needed

  • Id say a flood pointing down and forward, in combination with head light would do the trick, would remove more of the shadows as well when you approach edges.

  • I literally added those lights to my wishlist last night, haha. Perfect timing for a real live review, thanks!

  • As a person who rides at night often....I appreciated this effort and video. Gonna have to take a solid look at those lights for myself.

  • Hey Seth! Awesome episode looked scary and sick at the same time! Oh and also when are you going to ride the banana canyon jump line?!

  • Wow, I’ve been riding a long time but not much at night so I had some serious sticker shock when checking the link for the lights. From the vid and comments I’m sure they’re great but man, waaaay outside of my budget.

  • Someone actually made a replica of the wail tail here in an trail someone made! It’s such an awesome feature

  • Really nice video Seth! Keep up the good work! Have a really nice day!😊

  • This is probably one of my favorite videos recently. The videography gives me Skills with Phil vibes and I am 100% here for it. Awesome video

  • Great video! Outbound lighting is hands down the best lights on the market!

  • Love the content bro! keep it up!!

  • I've been following outbound lighting for a year or so now. They really seem to be the best quality, brightest, best company around. I bet they blow up with orders after this video! Thanks for sharing the sketch!

  • Congrats, Seth! Mission accomplished. I like that flood light. Not sure about the helmet spot, mine is slightly less powerful, but has spot plus side floods which I really appreciate, fills things in a lot more. It's a repurposed hiking headlamp.

  • Weird thing, I've been into mtb and xc for years, and I've never even thought of wearing a helmet. It's not like I'm a pro rider or something, I'm actually more of a beginner, but that's just something that never occured to me

  • Im so glad to see you riding more!

  • As a patroller at a year round bike park I sadly have to do this every night on every trail to "sweep" the trails each and every winters day. After 4 years it's still terrifying so good on you

  • Holy moly that even got my heart up! the most involved video I think Seth has ever put out. Having the tunnel vision from the dark really pulls you in...

  • Outbound lights are good stuff. I've had the hangover helmet light since the initial pre-order. I had a minor issue with the first one I got and their service was top notch. Definitely recommend them👍

  • Man that had my blood pressure rising. Good stuff as always. Thanks bro.🤣🍺

  • The blood is on his hands dude I love your vids and love mountain biking

  • Seth: Let's make a super sketchy trail system in my backyard! Also Seth: What if we made it even sketchier?

  • Thanks I did learn something I never thought about putting light on my helmet total game changer

  • Think Seth now needs to add permanent outdoor lighting throughout the berm peek trails, maybe paint the features with glow or UV paint

  • It's seems madnesses to me riding berm peak during the day. To do it at night takes it to a whole new level. Great video Seth, especially with how difficult it is to light a night scene that will produce a decent image.

  • Just the fact that he waited to post this until night time is genius 👌🏼

  • Thank you Seth! Awesome video, really cool to hear a more raw voice from you being you were genuinely amped up throughout

  • I really like how "raw" this video was when he was riding I found it very relaxing you can hear the wheels and the wind

  • Love night rides and the challenge it can bring to riding, really makes Berm Peak look amazing and fun and from a different perspective.

  • Been rocking the Outbound Lighting for a year now. Love their stuff!

  • I've been wanting the Outbound Trail Evo setup for a long time!!!!

  • i would love to see another night ride on your channel again, maybe at Kanuga bike park.

  • I love seeing the progress!

  • What I‘m the most impressed with is the low light performance of the GoPro! Those shots are completely black at the sides and even though you are riding with lights it’s not comparable to sunlight. Still the pictures are super sharpe

  • I think for the first time in a video we the audience got a small inkling of the experience of riding with the full run from 10:50. The motion blur and tunnel vision caused by the lighting really showed how much speed you carry, how quickly you pick up speed in some parts and how little time you have to react. Kudos for doing all that.

    • Hangover; feels like daytime.

  • Oh man am I glad I picked up my Outbound Lights before this came out. They’re gonna BLOW UP after this!

  • In-freakin-sane!! But SO entertaining! You are a MONSTER!! You had my heart racing and my palms sweaty! Well done! I've done a fair bit of night riding but could not imagine doing something as crazy as that. Hat's of to you sir!

  • I really like how "raw" this video was when he was riding I found it very relaxing you can hear the wheels and the wind

  • I love seeing Seth uncomfortable. It shows that even the pros have challenges too and makes me feel a little bit better when I get nervous on 1ft skinnys lol

  • I would be interested to see if this auto racing technique works for mountain biking. In auto racing you’re suppose to look as far forward as possible. You watch the corner you’re in with your periphery and focus your eyes on the next corner. I just say it because I notice you’re looking down alot at the obstacle your currently on. Just think it would be cool to see what it feels like to a mountain biker to try it.

  • Imagine you install lightings along the trail. Its gonna be an awesome ride at night.

  • Pumped to see you night riding! I ride almost exclusively at night cause of my crap work schedule, and swear by my outbound lighting.i especially love the cable manager hooks to keep the shadows from projecting.

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  • Seth has bigger balls than I do, but I would love to do that. I dig night riding and have a bit of an obsession with lights. I look forward to updates on this set of lights and I look forward to another night ride video. Great job, glad he did not crash.

  • We have been using Outbound lights for over 3 years. They are far superior.

  • That is so sketchy looking at night, great job!

  • This time of year I mostly do all my rides at night here in Florida. Of course nothing as extreme as Berm Peaks jumps though. I don't have the ⚽️🏀's for that. Lol

  • i was on the brakes myself just watching this...........almost like a passenger in a car who is nervous............ Great stuff.......intense ✌❤

  • I bet you will love the lights! I backed the company by getting a helmet and bar light when they were developing them. Unfortunately someone stole them off my bike and helmet while I went into a restaurant for 20 minutes. I haven’t been able to get another set of lights yet, but once I save up enough it will definitely be the same ones again

  • What stands out to me that I feel sometimes goes unnoticed, is how far cameras (action cameras especially) have progressed. Amazes me how high quality and smooth the footage is with just two lights at night.

    • Bad lighting on this video

  • You should set up lights in the trails at berm peak it would be sick to see you ride more at night and also have guests ride at night

  • I woukd think Seth could ride Berm Peak blindfolded by now!