STRANGER THINGS Season 5 Everything We Know

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  • What do you think is going to happen in Stranger Things Season 5? Comment your thoughts below!

    • I'm honestly thinking will is part of it he will feel what 001 feels and side with vecna betraying el mike Lucas and Dustin..and of course max.

    • @クリス龍Chris Dragon -I thought that was going to happen too!

    • you know how argyle was getting some mushrooms and how they make people see things mabey el could use them to boost her p powers

    • 11 vs will

    • Yes, I often think that a character, loved instantly by the fan base, being killed in a way that leads to one of the best scenes in the series is "shitty writing". The fact a characters death ticks off an audience is usually a sign that the writers created a great character that the fans are sad to see go. Him surviving would lead to a lot of repetition, with him in hiding and the party bringing him supplies and trying to prove he's innocent. Then people would be complaining that they were repeating the same story.

  • Why do I have the feeling the Mind flayer will use Will as its host again, Will is lonely through out the season, even Jonathan his brother notices it. As far as I know, Vecna searches the mind who are weak and have guilt. I don't know but I have the strong feeling Will will be part of it at Season 5.

    • What if Vecna goes after Mike and reveals through flashbacks that he feels guilty for shutting out Will after he realized at the end of season 3 that he has feelings for Will instead of El. His shame over not being straight and doing everything in his power to mask his sexuality, including hurting his best friend. I think it'd be interesting for Vecna to go after Mike because I can't really picture it. He's the last one i'd expect to be targeted so I'd love to see what that would look like. I don't want him or Will to die though 😭

    • It would explain his story arc and his brief presence in this season…

    • Will said in number 4 that he can still feel Vecna in their world so I think it’s safe to assume he’s gonna act as a vessel again lol

    • Mind flayer only used Will because they didn’t really have any other access to the real world, but now they do

    • I feel that maybe Will won't survive.

  • According to D&D lore, Vecna is a Lich, which means that his body can be destroyed, but he will not die unless you destroy the phylactery that holds his life-force. I think that is likely the clock. So, his body will eventually reform until that is destroyed. It's much like a Horcrux. In the meantime, we could see his hand or eye (or both) show up in Hawkins as cursed items that cause someone to help Vecna grow back faster through murder. That's just my hope as a D&D nerd. It has been said that there would be a time jump to the next season, so the kids will better match their actual ages. To do that, they need to delay the invasion even though the gates are all open. Max being still alive does not prevent the gate opening because Vecna absorbed her into himself already, which is the key to the gates. The delay is caused by the destruction of Vecna's body. So, the time jump is however long it takes for Vecna to regenerate. During that time, El will find out that Max is trapped inside Vecna and Dustin will remember that Liches have phylacteries, and they will hatch a plan that launches the final battle.

    • This makes the most sense. I mean Henry could always never die, even when he almost killed himself when he killed his fam. Or when 11 killed him in 79' and again in 86' he didnt die again. So its highly likely he Cant die unless that clock, or sonething is destroyed, cause we seen that clock the ENTIRE season 4 and all they elaborated on was that he needed 4 people to die. There definitely has to be a better reason for everyone seeing that damn clock all the time. Shit, That clock had more screen tine than all the other actors. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ixamxexhumed most definitely

    • @Rashi Rautela facts

    • What about 8 she was referenced by 001

    • I saw a theory that said will was the phylactery and would sacrifice himself

  • Eleven will travel in time to 2022. When she returns to 1986, and tells the group how much fuel costs, they decide to just let the upside down take over.

  • Something that seems off about El being unable to see into Max's mind simply because she's catatonic is that El was still able to find Barbara even though she was dead... which leads me to believe Vecna is actively doing something to block El from doing anything that might interfere with his future plans.

    • Her body might be used by him or she could attack him from the inside. Maybe she will come back if he is killed?

    • One said anyone he kills is not gone but still with him in his mind. Maybe Max's conscious is with him and her body is currently an empty vessel?

    • Ooh good catch

    • Max will be a physical host for something from the upsidedown that's why el couldn't find her. I think it's possibly vecna.

  • hope they give Will a good storyline next season pls, take advantage his ability to sense mindflayer, i don't mind making him a villain for a sec but pls he deserve it!!!!!!!!! also other characters. Esp. Mike. hope they give Mike's character more substance, layer next season. edit: i'm saying this because the show first revolved around the four curious boys, Lucas and Dustin had their own storyline this s4 and their scenes were powerful, and the other two were left out.

    • @ANTIDARKSIDE they need to do more with Jonathan. He was pretty bad ass in Season 1 and 2.

    • @MIya R-k He has also evolved as an actor. In all seriousness I’m not trying to be mean about Noah, but sometimes child actors just don’t take that next step. Finn, Caleb, and Gaten have. Noah hasn’t.

    • I especially agree about Mike, I feel like the only character moments they gave him were about El. I love them together, but I want to see some heroic Mike moments that aren't just him talking to El. I like what they did with Lucas this season and I want that for Mike next season. He had that one great moment fighting Billy and hasn't had a whole lot of good hero moments since.

    • @WhiteLasagna Agreed. When he's not being saved by other people, he's just tagging along hardly helping while everyone else does all the work. Which is especially baffling when he's the one character with the most history with Vecna/the Upside Down besides Eleven. He needs to have a major role in ending the story.

    • @Tamajit Das nope i never said anything about his sexuality.

  • El dying seems very predictable. She opened the gate to begin with it makes sense if she sacrificed herself to close or destroy the upside down. However I don’t want her to die I’d want a happy ending for her and hopper

    • yeah idk i feel like unfortunately stranger things won’t completely come to an end unless el dies. i have a theory that at the end when el and vecna fight both of them will die. because el using her powers to fully defeat vecna will be too much for her body to take.

    • @Goddess Amin B I think 90% of ST viewers will be pissed because I surely will.

    • @Markooni Mooni he didn’t say join him, he referred to her inheriting his ability’s and control to keep the upside down at bay and prevent them from going to the normal realm. She made started it she finishes it in sacrifice.

    • If they kill El off I will be HIGHLY pissed off!

    • @Charleton Music if El wanted to join him, she would have already done this soo.... She is good character and she wouldn't give up on her friends and the world....

  • I hope Will gets his kickass moment for once. He’s been pushed around and kicked to the side for four seasons now. Would be nice to see him come full circle. My personal hope is that Will has Eleven teach him how to use psychic powers, would be sick to see them fighting together

    • Vecna once and for all, Max consciousness will be freed.

  • I remember in episode 8 that Dr. Brenner said that Vecna takes everything from his victims, including their memories. That’s why when Eleven went into Max’s mind at the end of episode 9 when she was in the hospital,it was completely blank. So, I believe that when the gang defeats Vecna in season 5, Max will restore her memories and will awaken from the coma.

    • @D yea u can ppl can stay in a coma for years the longest coma was 37 years

    • Maybe they'll even add magic pixie dust and bring back everyone who was killed by an upside down creature including Chrissy, Barb, and Eddie. I mean if their bodies are still intact at least. But this probably just wishful thinking lolol

    • It's like a power rangers villain 😂😂

    • @Rylan K y’all needa chill bro😂😂 I don’t think the show is gonna time jump. You can’t skip to years later when the world is actively slowly dying and the heroes do nothing for years until the show picks back up. I think it’s gonna pick up exactly where we left off, and then when Veccna and the upside down are finished they will time jumped years later.

    • Which is why I’m saying give Sadie sink the Emmy nomination for this season because it’s gonna be pretty hard to win an Emmy while your character is in a coma.

  • I think Sam Owens will play a major role. He was the one that kept warning Brenner that Hawkins was running out of time. Also believe Kali will return.

    • @Mike Stanley I think the problem was that it was a separate episode and it messed up the flow of the show big time. If they had shown that storyline like any other one and spread it out to different episodes, I don't think it would have half the hate. I think they should bring her back and it will be worse to leave that storyline as an open thread.

    • @Tiff Monique Kali's powers are illusion-based. She can't close the portals, but if she returns, she can distract Vecna with her mind games.

    • I never understood the hate for the Kali storyline. To me, it was a "Luke goes to Dagaboh" kind of spin (to use a SW reference). It also made 11's return to Hawkins that much more powerful. (Everyone thought 11 was still dead, then). Also, in Vol 1, Henry references to 11, "Back when 8 was still here", so a seed has certainly been planted, if they want to use it.

    • @Jake same that was such a boring aspect of the show to me, at least.

    • @True Blossom she was pretty weak for power lvls And last time we seen her she was a bad guy I say if she comes back its for more powers and becomes a part of Vecnas cult Classic female villain/fake hero trope

  • I really hope Eleven doesn’t die, she deserves a chance at having a happy, normal life 😭 Her death would also destroy Hopper, he’s already lost a child.

    • I hope too. Also because it would be so predictable. I hope they don't. But even if they show her sacrifice, it is created by Duffer Brothers, they would show her somehow surving in the end. Brothers like to keep the ending on the positive note. El has a huge fan base. They wouldn't want her fans to be broken hearted.

    • But it started with her it has to end with her

  • I think Hawkins will fall and get destroyed at the end even though vecna will die and the residents might have to look forward building a new small town just like that of Asgard after the Ragnarok.

    • I love how I'm not the only one who relates shit to Avengers... 😁💪🏼👊🏼

    • Lol

    • I highly doubt theyll rebuild the town And thor ragnarok was horrible

    • Or a bit like when "Sunnydale" imploded at the end of "Buffy S7"....

  • I feel like the D&D game that they played at the beginning of the season wasn't a hint at this seasons play out, but season 5. All of the players thought vecna was dead, but then he returns, damaged. Would make sense. If so, it would foreshadow a lot of deaths, as in the D&D game, only one survived and destroyed him

    • @Lainey Bug vecna would cry

    • What if Erica's the only one left?

    • Oh shit noooo.... I don't want see they all die..... noo... I don't believe that iss true

  • ok crazy idea - BUT DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER MAX'S LETTERS? I think they're important and they will use them in season 5 and actually do the Plan B. I also think Will is gonna die since he started this whole thing and you know "every ending has a beginning" and all.

    • If Max dies at the end of Season 5 finale, I guess that’s probably where everyone will start reading her letters

    • Every ending has a beginning right? El was that beginning so she must be the ending

    • Will cant die he won’t do anything he didn’t start this, el did. She created vecna, she’s the one who opened the gates, she’s the one who vecna seeks revenge p, vecna envy’s her not will

    • frrr

  • My prediction. Sadly is that 011 will die along with 001.. seems like it’s just destiny and bound to happen. Think about it. With them being the last subjects and with the writers and brothers completely writing off 008. It just seems like the only logical thing. That and when the brothers showed the directors of Netflix the ending of Stranger Things, they all cried. So means that she will die along side a few others..

    • No. It will be Will.

    • It doesn't mean she'll die, you've just decided it does. Your opinion isn't fact.

    • @prodbynxne I'd be disappointed just because it's so obvious.

    • I don't think El will be killed off. But I do think El will have to kill someone she's close to. Maybe Vecna lives within Max and El will have to kill Max or something like that. Maybe even kill Mike

    • I think Mike will die tying to help will, thus making 11 more powerful and angry then 11 sacrifices herself to be with mike

  • I hope Argyle returns for season 5 tbh

    • he most likely will. i mean he’s the only one we have left after eddie died🥺🥺.

    • Said no one ever

    • He’s as annoying as Jaja-Binks was.

    • @Indo to the left hand side 🎼

  • I think Max will be able to fully recover, If you all remember Vecna said everything he kill became a part of him. This is just a guess for me but I think when the gang finally defeat Vecna once and for all, Max consciousness will be freed.

    • @Cameron Galloway I have a feeling like that too. Like Brenner said Henry consumes everyone he kills and became a part of him, and Eleven might be able to share some of her powers or she can fill the void that Henry consumes by sharing her memories of Max.

    • @Cameron Galloway maybe not sure that's how it works

    • I have a feeling Eleven may have indirectly transferred some of her powers to Max and she’ll play a pivotal part towards the end.

    • @F H they should of kept Eddie munson

    • @Vincent Hamilton It took 4 deaths to open the gates and the implication is that she died. War was coming from the upside down. I really hope Max comes back bc I think Sadie Sink brings a lot to the series.

  • 1:02 while it hasn't been confirmed, the duffer Brothers confirmed that season 5 would come much faster than season 4 Also 2:46 vecnas human form wasn't destroyed. Will states that even though Nancy, Steve, and Robin hurt vecna badly he can feel that he's still alive just badly wounded.

    • yes. i was thinking season 5 wasn’t going to come until like 2025. i hope they keep their promise that season 5 will come faster

    • They made the Thanos mistake, went for the body instead of the head after the first hit to light him up. Yes I believe S5 was already renewed in February with the release ~1 year from that

    • I’d expect Season 5 to be at earliest either Halloween or Christmas 2023 - at latest it’ll be a similar time (Memorial Day/July 4th) in 2024.

    • I agree. I also think they're trying to keep the kids relatively young and it gets harder as the actors obviously mature. I don't think S5 will take nearly as long. I also feel S4 was massive and needed to refocus the series for end game. Now that everyone is all together, i think S5 will be a lot more streamlined to make it to the finish line.

    • @SussudioScott oh interesting, I've never seen that movie so I would've never made the connection. Thanks for the info!

  • I also think that eleven will fly. They have been foreshadowing it quite often so I am positive she will fly

    • Every moment she gets closer to becoming a version of Neo from The Matrix

    • @Xeato1515 That would be cool if Will develops powers and maybe even Max too. Eleven's the main hero but the girl can't be everywhere all at once and she'll need backup.

    • @Xeato1515 it rlly does make sense bc will is like a spy he knows and senses vecnas presence and she’s gonna need to fly in order or reach that storm

    • ähm, she already did (double nose bleeding) in the S02 season finale.

    • Facts. Since she’s gotten a power upgrade. She will fly and be able to do some sort of power emergence. Eleven in this universe is basically Xmens Jean Grey anyways lol. Another thing they’ve hinted towards but keep putting it off Will having powers. Not sensing the upside down, but actually may be able to control the vines dogs and demogorgans. It would be nice for once for the show to stop relying on Jane to save the day but yea.

  • I wonder if the Dark Entity seen in the prison in Russia will come into play. If 001/Vecna/Henry can control the Darkness why couldn't El? It would probably kill her but I mean that sacrifice seems to be where this is going. She may need to die to close the portals.

    • @wonderwall62 Max can’t come back ,, if she does it’ll be a miracle but Max deadass is blind ,, Vec/Henry/One took her contacts that let her see shit

    • @Ahh Goof He was right that El wasn't ready, but Will was also right: Max is alive (and can still come back) because El jumped into action.

    • @britt amber omg u all just chill. we r here to have fun

  • Anyone think that Will may be the final gate that is going to need to be closed? Sorta like Harry Potter was a horcrux of Voldemort’s, what if Vecna made Will into a gate somehow, and that’s why he’s always been connected the way he has (i.e. being able to sense them, know what they’re going to do, etc)?

    • I don’t think so. Vecna would’ve mentioned it when he was explaining to El about how she opened a door for him.

    • I don’t think he’s a gate but I do think he’s an anker for both worlds which was why vechna let him be rescued

    • @alice but maybe eleven can take the curse off him?

    • In the beginning dnd game they think vecinas dead but he just lost an arm and an eye

    • i thought about that too. maybe will has to be hurt/killed/sacrificed in order to completely close the upside down

  • I know everyone loves Steve (myself included)…but I don’t think Steve and Nancy make sense. Steve wants a baby factory. I can’t say that Nancy is or isn’t down for that, but I do know she’s the “career driven” type. Although I could maybe see Steve as the stay at home dad.

    • Jonathan and Nancy don’t look right as a couple

    • Yeah right. Stop shipping Nancy and Steve, eversince Nancy never had feelings for Steve even after the character development, you can see this on a scene where Steve tells Nancy that she was always on his dreams having six kids bla bla bla then Nancy have to say something and based from her body movement that she rejects the idea then Robin interfered. Jonathan and Nancy have some serious mis communication but I believed they can work it out like mike and eleven relationship because They are the couple that was intended (S1-S3). I think they are setting up a villain Steve arc for S5 because of the rejection , Vecna can use him because of that.

    • @MC R 🙌🙏🙌🙏🙌🙏🙌 You cant make high flying independent women without dad and mom They just forgot about life past self obsessions

    • @Magpie Critic So he's dirty because he poor? Nice. No wonder you stan for steve.

  • I feel so bad for Max. She's gonna be blind and possibly crippled for the rest of her life

    • i think max is gonna end up like els mom weird and other stuff

    • @Luvv Sushi I was thinking the same thing

    • @S PJ ooh that'd be interesting

    • @discount morty wtf what's wrong with you

  • I really hope we see Will more in the next season, its like They forgot about him! He has so much potensial as the amazing actor he is. And I cant wait to see Robin and her girlfriend next season! Pretty sure max will wake up, mabye at the end of season 5.

    • @DeadNorth 86 it ain't that deep

    • It all started with Will and Eleven it will probably end with them

    • i think they are saving his story for when the time is right

    • @DeadNorth 86 Dude, Will and Vickie got very little focus this season, so it's ok to hope to see more from them next time. Calm down

  • I think along with the characters you mentioned, Argyle will probably become a series regular next season, and I think Vicky might actually play an important role, hinted by Robin and Vicky's scene at the end of the season.

    • Exactly, she'll probably fill the void left by Eddie in the older teen cast (not that they'll technically be teens by S05).

  • Vecna’s body or “human form” wasn’t destroyed, when they went outside to check where he fell it was gone. Like a classic horror film lol so I’m sure we’ll see that version of him again probably looking even scarier

    • @Henry Palmer yes it was😂😂 Veccna ain’t Batman. His body was destroyed and he definitely materialized somewhere else.

    • @Alexnclips no it wasnt

  • Also, I’m hoping that season 5 can jump right into it and not have to do the typical “What’ve they been up to?” at the beginning of each season. Don’t get me wrong, I like that type of thing, but maybe not in the final season where time is limited.

    • @Gavin Duke it starts 3 years later in 1989

    • @Brandon Reed they never said anything like that, it was only ever suggested as an explanation "if" the actors looked like they had aged too much so the time jump is only a possibility and apart from Lucas the cast haven't dramatically changed all that much so far.

    • @Fj I think the Duffer brothers said it would be a gap of 3 years, so 1989

    • 99% sure they won't do that. The Duffers have said plainly that they are going to do a time jump to age up the characters closer to the age of the actors. I wouldn't be surprised if Hawkins was evacuated and the military has sealed off the area during the time jump.

    • ST5 does start moments after ST4

  • a reasonable plot resolution was mentioned after season 3, by someone else on youtube: suzie reads "the wizard of earthsea"in which the hero has to be assimilated into the great power of darkness in order to destroy it. it's [possible that eleven would merge with the mind flayer and destroy it from within.

    • That Would Be Awesome To See. Hope Suzie comes to Hawkins. Cannot wait to see what Happens.

    • @Supernxva Not bad but you should stop commenting on other peoples videos with the intention of people going on your channel. Kinda annoyin.

    • Maybe that's what Max did though and she'll be the hero that gets him from within?

    • I think that will happen

    • That would be a lame ass ending imo.

  • i hated Eddie’s death like i cried so hard why did they have to take him away? like he was such a good character but at least he is with Chrissy ♥️♥️

    • @Karan Field Yeppers. Affecting stories don't respect age. I'm 57 and used many Kleenex during that final episode.

    • @CryptRot they are not able to kill but there able to wound people (Like Steve and Eddie) but the creators of stranger things said that they can’t kill.

    • He might be alive cause Dustin didn’t check his pulse and the demobats can’t kill

    • @𓈈𖤐⋆𝙸̲𝚗̲𝚔̲ 𝚝̲𝚑̲𝚎̲ 𝚆̲𝙸̲𝚝̲𝚌̲𝚑̲⋆𖤐𓈈 there would be no point on bringing Eddie back because the town thinks he is a murderer

    • Pissed me off that they killed Eddie off. Im still pissed. I wanted to see more of him.

  • Jonathan or Steve is going to die, and that resolves the love triangle in a finite way. I'm leaning on Jonathan dying, because he protects Will in the act of doing so. But if there is ever an epilogue event filmed 5+ years in the future for a reunion. one of Steve's kids will be called Johnathan.

    • Yeah this seems like a decent take. They pushed the love triangle in our faces all season and neither Steve, Nancy, or Jonathan died in the finale, so it stands to reason they have to iron out the love triangle by either killing Nancy (linchpin of the triangle) or one of the boys. Since Steve would have been likely to die vs Vecna but didn’t, I think your hypothesis is more on the mark.

    • one of steve’s kids being named jonathan is something i had no idea i needed to see 🥹🥹

  • This show is amazing! I cannot believe how attached I have become to all the characters. Seeing Eddie die was sad, but seeing Max go through what she did was heartbreaking! Anxiously waiting for season 5.

  • I also think that eleven will fly. They have been foreshadowing it quite often so I am positive she will fly

  • I also think that eleven will fly. They have been foreshadowing it quite often so I am positive she will fly

  • You know how Brenner said that with every victim he takes a part of them, basically themselves, with Eleven reviving Max I think that her mind is with vecna but she's there in physical form, so when EL kills vecna she's gonna wake up from her coma since she got her soul back? I don't really know but it made sense to me (sorry this made no sense)

  • I think Vecna consumed Max's essence, but because her physical body is still alive it is preventing the gates from spreading. A scenario in Season 5 is likely trying to rescue Max's "soul", while her physical body is in jeopardy.

    • Similar to “The Cell” with JLo going into the serial killers mind…

  • my wish for season 5: all ordinary people must finally realize what upside down is and therefore pay respect for Eddie. But even when armies all over the world start believing they can't help the spreading and the season starts few years later in a post-apocalyptic world where a majority of humankind has got crushed by the upside down like in endgame and earth has turned to it. The last survivors, which are the main characters as they know how to survive in upside down the best then would try to end it all and somehow make things right again... I'm just saying that the show gets repetitive if everything is the same again in season 5, a new mystery and fairy like adventure. It must start with showing that life is not normal anymore and times have really changed in the years between the seasons! also Khali a.k.a 8 must be there and Victor Creel facing the ruins of his son. Maybe everyone dying at the end and finding out it was all a D&D campaign in Mike's basement ;D

    • I only wish that they were going to wake up from a dream but my heart doesn’t believe it

  • Brenner stated that, whenever Vecna kills, he takes part of his victim with him, specifically their self. Eleven revived Max's body, but her mind is with Vecna, which is why Max is in a coma. This brings me to my next point: Did they Han Solo Max? If you don't know what i'm talking about, at the end of The Empire Strikes Back, Han Solo was frozen in carbonite. The reason for this, out of universe, was that Harrison Ford, who played Han, wasn't sure if he would stay on for the last movie, because he really didn't like the role. Thus, they put him into a state where, if Ford chose to stay on, they could bring him back, but if he chose to leave, they could just as easily write him out of the last movie. I think putting Max into a coma could be a similar matter. I don't have any concrete evidence that Sadie Sink is thinking about leaving the show, but if she is, her being in a coma would make it very easy to write her out of the fifth season, since she can't really do much while comatose. However, they could just as easily bring her back by having El free her mind and allowing it to return to Max's body at some point in the show, should she choose to stay.

    • @potatotheaxolootl Well lets be honest here, Season 5 is gonna have mains dying left right and center. That's just how series work.

    • I hope they choose to let her alive And I don't really think sadie sink wants to leave she looks like she likes her role to me and yk the show is gonna make only 1 other season then gonna end even if she wants to leave so badly I'm sure she can stay for a season I feel like the duffer brothers wanted to get more viewers on season 5 so they ended the story on the halfway and made the fanbase worry. They know that they are gonna lose fans by killing the main characters and im sure they lost some fans because of eddie

  • Unfortunately I'm pretty sure this is going to come down to Eleven having to sacrifice herself to save all of her friends in the last season. She's literally the reason number 001 became as powerful as he is and the reason the upside down became a threat to Hawkins. They also share a connection between their powers so I have a feeling this is going to come down to a scenario where she has to sacrifice herself and all her power to destroy number 001 and all of his power. However I'm still really pissed Eddie died. If Eddie had lived to be in the 5th season I would be completely invested. But now that he's not I don't really care what happens lol. My dude shouldn't have gone out like that 😢

    • They cant go through the entire show to trying to give El a normal, life just to kill her off in the end. A lot of people would be very disappointed. Including myself

    • @Cryplix For real. And than they revisited it at the end with Dustin and his Dad! Like come on man, I didn't need to tear up again!!

    • True. I felt like it would be too predictable bring up another likeable character just to kill them off. I thought they were gonna surprise us this time. I am disappointed.

  • I think Vicky will join the group and be in a storyline with robin, Steve, and Dustin

    • Was the three different parts not enough evidence of that It keeps you from hate matching on the show

  • I want to see Will having a bigger role again and also Steve and Johnathan teaming up

  • I'm rooting for Will being a big part of all of this in the end.

  • Just to elaborate, between both season 1&2 and 2&3 were closer to a year and a half. They said previously that they aimed for that when creating each season and seems to be their typical cadence. The creators said in an article recently that Netflix green lighting S5 back in Feb meant they were able to get a head start on the pre-work. I’m hoping we can maybe get season 5 by the end of summer next year.

    • It also helps the kids are older and there's no Pandemic restrictions.

    • I really dont think they could get it all done in just over a year. The smallest time gap between seasons so far has been 1 year and 4 months. Season 5 is going to have to be more ambitious than season 4, with so many storylines and loose ends that need to be tied up. We need answers, and to get that all done in a year would be a miracle. I'd rather it come out early 2024. That's plenty of time for them to execute whatever they have in mind, and for visual effects. If we want the best season 5, it's best to expect it coming later rather than sooner.

    • Probably during the summer, which will line up with the show.probably. They will probably need to use the summer sun somehow to defeat the Mind Flayer on a large scale. The heat weakens it. That's probably why it's releasing all that smoke at the end. Terraforming Hawkins for it's entry into the town.

    • I hope it aTleast comes out the ending of next year

    • @Luvv Sushi probably an October release like they always used to.

  • Almost every mind that Eleven managed to see into in the past turned out to be conscious in some way. Max was unconscious, so perhaps that’s why Eleven didn’t see anything. (This has its quirks, but it’s just a theory.)

    • @s n shes in a vegetative state. she cant communicate her needs. Vegetated state doesnt mean ur unconscious ur still fully conscious

    • @putmeinagrave her memories were limited to what we've seen happening in the lab. She could sense El, but I don't think she was fully conscious. El was saying that Terry sent her to Kali, but she could've misinterpreted it. Terry's catatonic, thus she is a vegetable, therefore she cannot be fully conscious.

    • @Sasssky No they aren’t. What? Lmao

    • @putmeinagrave her mom isn’t a vegetable her brain got zapped but she still has those memories going through her mind that’s why she keeps repeating those words rainbow sunflower

    • @Micheal Doofensmirtz but again, Vecna's explicit connection to Max (The vines being how he does that from the Upside down) was cut off before she actually died. So I just don't see a logical reason why Venca/One/Creel could take her conciousness The main thing that caused the gate forming was Vecna pressing his power into the real world to kill his victims, it's logically just the case the fatal damage Vecna was able to deal (even if not immediate) while that connection was online was enough to make that last crack in the dam

  • I have a theory that wills connection to the mind flayer is the key to defeat. I feel that will will be able to control the mind flayer over Henry causing the split between them

  • Maybe I’m just being hopeful, but I think Eddie will return. Since he died in the upside down and it has now merged with Hawkins, something tells me he’ll be back, especially because they never gave him an official “send off”, which seems odd because he was a huge part of season 4. Something isn’t adding up.

    • Yes, I was thinking the same, they didn’t show us what really happened after that, everything is possibile at this point I mean, El can bring people to life, they show us that the upside down is not in the same timeline as present, there’s must be a reason why they let us know that. And I mean, after Hopper found a medieval sword in a russian prison and fought with that 😅 they can do anything 🤣

    • I really like this theory and hate eddie dying too much to give reason so imma start pullin ideas out mah butt So we know time is stopped in the upsidedown, which could mean that eddie would have “died” in the past but not the present So maybe if they brought his body to the real world , or since the two worlds are merging, eddies two lifelines will merch and hed be “half dead” with is technically alive There, boom, this will stave off my sadness for at least a few days

    • it makes sense. Remember- the upside down has some time play inserted, some items do not exist yet in the upside down because it's behind in time. maybe there are ways to adjust it, and bring eddie back? This theory is very incomplete but it's a start!

    • @Anushka:) I guess it would be like the feelings we had at the end of S3 when Hopper "died".

    • I'm really hoping that's true, but I'm not counting on it. But, I agree something is off/different with his death. Of course, that might just be in my mind bc I really liked him.

  • I don’t know if the names of the episodes have already been announced but here are my custom titles for each episode of season 5. Chapter 1, The Beginning of the End Chapter 2, Better Watch out Wheeler Chapter 3, Henry Chapter 4, 001 Chapter 5, Vecna Volume 2 Chapter 6, Watch out Steve Chapter 7, You can’t Kill Me Chapter 8, Ready the Guns Chapter 9, The Final Stand Chapter 10, Hell’s Final Breath I took the name for episode 10 from a random comment I found that said the final episode for season 4 was supposed to be called that. Edit: ok so I changed the name of episode 2

  • I think I know what happened to Max. When Vecna kills, he consumes their minds, and they end up as contorted corpse in his minds cape. When Max died, he consumed her. El was only able to restore her body. I think season 5 will be them going into the Mindflayer to find Max's "soul"

  • I definitely see new demi creatures, possibly one without connection to the hive mind and might help out the protagonists against the mind flayer / vecna. Reason why I think this is the strong impact and screen time of the creatures in this season is unlike the rest. There may be a new twist.

  • I really hope eleven doesn't die in season 5. It will just be heartbreaking

    • @Steve Harrington Eleven is my favorite character but she’s the reason 001 is as strong as he is so I think both Vecna and El will die and maybe Will as well but I really hope this isn’t true

    • @Eliminator 147 what makes you say that?

    • I think she will tbh

    • I'm opposite I think be cool finale to end series but got feeling it gonna be max tho

  • I wish will has some power to control the mind flayer and turn him against vecna

  • I hope 008 will be helping Eleven to fight against Vecna in season 5 🤞

  • I hope Kali (eight) will be in Season 5. They can add Kali as one of their enemies or either add her as their ally to fight the monsters.

  • Will’s connection may be the key. He may reveal the Flayer would just prefer the humans go away, close the portals, and leave the two worlds apart. In our world, where humans rule, the Flayer is antithetical. But the reverse is true from the Flayer’s POV. So the problem is “our” 01-our binary/black-n-white traveler to the UpsideDown. If we remove our upside down 01 from the Flayer’s world, the two worlds can go along their ways independent of each other.

    • @John Doute I don't think so. 01 encountered the Flayer, used his powers, and became the Vecna we know, joining/using(?) the Flayer. Remember never ignore what Dustin says; he's never wrong. Dustin said Vecna is just a general, maybe a rogue one.

    • The Flayer is Vecna, you realize that right?

  • El will fly in season 5, like the telekinetics did in the film Chronicle. She's way more powerful than them however they seemed more powerful with their tk.

  • They cannot do a time jump in the middle of such a cliffhanger they will need to resume where they left off and do whatever time jumps are necessary later.

    • I feel like they are going to start with it being directly after and midway they will do a time jump.

    • @𝑘𝑖𝑧𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑑 No it's not

    • They could possibly do a time jump as both sides prepare for battle. Vecna needs to recover and El needs to train. Meanwhile Owens comes back with the US military to try and keep the Upside Down from spreading.

    • @𝑘𝑖𝑧𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑑 Nope season 5 not this season will be the last one and even if they start where they left off they can still do a time jump within that last season just not at the start of it.

    • This is the last season

  • Vecna’s physical body isn’t destroyed lol, he’s still alive and out there.

    • @D I wouldn't be surprised if Erica kills him in season 5

    • @cr103 wait if it parallels again, erica killed him so maybe eleven will? Since shes the girl of the group like erica was 🤔

    • He’s gone for a Starbucks 😂

    • @cr103 bro doesn’t Éricas character kill vecna

  • They mentioned how when One kills someone, everything that they were becomes a part of him. We see that with the whole hive mind thing. So most likely Max's mind has been claimed by Vecna. So the only way for her to wake up, is to reclaim her mind from him. I think she's going to get some closure with her brother though first (since he was a part of that hive mind as well, it's possible.) I don't think she'll be back to how she was before Vecna's curse though. I think she'll remain blind.

  • I think because of Wills continued connection, that he is actually (although resistant to the idea) part of the hive mind and may have to be sacrificed.

  • Max is the only person who came across with Vecna, seriously injured like Vecna's other victims but lived So I think she can be the one who clears Eddie's name by telling people that she was not attacked by Eddie

  • Theres something about Will for season 5. He's the outcast of the entire group. He's the one who can sense when the Mind Flayer is near, which is also an ability young Vecna had. The Mind Flayer will take him over again, but on a completely different level. Make him the villan of the season, which then splits the party quite a bit because on one hand, its Will, but on the other, its an evil being. Im basically saying Will would become the new general. This leads to a problem: the only way to kill the Mind Flayer is to combine with it, which is what Eleven will have to do. Season 5 will end with Eleven dying. Theres no way for her to go back in hiding after a massive war like this. Once that happens, Max will come back to life. It either ends as a reality where Hawkins is destroyed and the party drives off into the sunset OR the final scene will end, fade to black, and then it will switch to it being an elaborate D&D game the whole time, and you see everyone around the table (even those you thought were gone).

    • @ZN Protagonist for fucks sake i figured that out. That doesnt negate the fact that: Will can sense it. Vecna created it and also sensed it. They can both draw it They were both described as sensitive and kind Both are loners and outcasts Also, Wills nose bled at the very end of season 4, which points to him having power to some extent. He hasnt been on good terms with anyone for a long part of the show. The Duffer brothers just confirmed that Will is going to play a HUGE role in season 5.

    • I don't think young Vecna had the ability to sense Mind Flayer, that's not what his drawing meant. His drawing was image he had for a superior predator and upon finding dark particles, Vecna mindcontrolled mind flayer into taking a form corresponding to the picture he drew in the house while being young.

  • I'm a little worried for season five. For me, the intrigue is a huge part of the show and I think season 4 worked so well because they made a new villain that brought a new mystery to the show. I don't see how they can keep that mystery going if season 5 still follow Vecna. Maybe it's possible if Vecna fuse with the mind flayer and we see something new come out of that.

    • The shadow has yet to be explained He briefly said he found something that would change everything What is the shadow itself? Is el gonna have to use it against him? Is it killable? There’s still a whole duck load of mystery m8

    • @ghost Choice with a show like this plot armour is needed as every character other than el would be dead in 1 minute.On the other hand a couple of main characters could end up dead in season 5

    • @FrostMusic From a viewers perspective, he has been introduced only this season. Before that, we didn't know he existed. That's why almost all the revelation this season was centered around him. That was one on my favorite part of this season.

    • If think in s5 they gonna connect all the dots and things happening since s1

    • We discovered in season 4 that vecna isnt just a "new villain" he has been behind everything since season 1. He controls the mind flayer/shadow monster.

  • I honestly thought season 3 was the best but this season was also amazing

  • Will being reluctant to come out the closet is gonna be a setup for him to succumb to the influence of vecna or the mind flayer

  • If it is true that there will be a time jump, I do hope they bring back Kali/008 to help in battling Vecna. This would give her redemption from petty crimes. She may have lost her gang and looks for Eleven, only to be embroiled in a battle for the planet. After all, she is the only other survivor from Hawkins Lab.

    • @Jose Cerrud That would be D.O.A. since the vast majority already didn’t like her. I argue that the DB introduced her, and she became a plot hole if they didn’t bring her back on the main show.

    • I feel like they might use her on a spin off show

    • @Vel The thing is that Kali can have a bigger role since she was central to helping El’s powers. She is Eleven’s sister, and who else can have the same kind of power as El? When it comes to a superpower, Kali can come in handy.

    • I dont like the Kali EP, and a majority of people agreed. That's why the DB decided to scrap it after season 2.

  • My only gripe with season 4 was Mike’s character , he felt so emotionless and honestly kinda like a throw away / background character

  • This season was intense. Had me almost crying

  • i had read at an article few weeks before part 2 that in Season 5, there will be a time jump, but after watching the last episode, i really dont think that we 'll visit Hawkins at the 90's

  • I love the original group and hope all are back. But I really hope we get more Argyle. Brochacho! 🥰

  • i personally just think they could do so much more with the series, and i understand that due to the story they want to get to an end but it would be nice to see more of this series. i mean it is just now seing its peak. idk maybe just me :/

    • I think that’s exactly why they want to end the series: they’re at their peak. it’s so much better to end the series on a high and remember it as the brilliant show that it is rather than making more seasons and finishing the show only when people are sick of it. I also think the duffers want to move on to other projects (and already are) especially since they never intended to do television and were initially more interested in film. the actors probably want to do the same.

  • There’s been a lot of speculation about time travel being a theme for next season. I’m willing to bet El learns how to do it (by accident at first), then goes back in time to kill Henry. If Henry never kills his family, Dr. Brenner never aquires him or the other children, El gets to have a life with her mother, Nancy and Steve date and later marry and have their Harrington brood, and the DND central group (and Hopper, etc) will stay in tact and otherwise fine but never know/love El.

    • that would suck and just make the whole show for nothing.

    • EL dies by doing so

    • @ZN Protagonist I didn’t, she’d never know them at all (she’d be having whatever life she missed out on with her mother). That would be the gut-wrenching part. I think I heard that when the creators showed the execs the outline for the ending they legitimately cried. The butterfly effect of Eleven having her own life separate from the gang would get me for sure.

    • Who says eleven will find Mike still

    • @_ came2kill _ and Billy!

  • It’ll be cool if Eleven has the power to revive people, but I simply believe she just pumped Max’s heart long enough to get her to a hospital.

  • Show some love for my man, Argyle! (No mention?) I do think he’ll be back, not just for his comedic relief, smart lines, and the actor’s abilities, but he does help drive the story forward, in terms of creative solutions (salt, etc.) and potentially new, psychoactive (mushrooms) solutions. He also helps Jonathan develop as a character, which will be important for when Steve and Nancy get back together (sorry real world Jonathan). I’m not sure how, but I see Will fully claiming the critical mantle of Wizard from S1 (and his poster), helping to orchestrate the fall of Vecna, and will have a significant role on El’s path, potentially sacrificing herself, bringing S5 and the final season to a close. I think Max will eventually regain consciousness, but her mind will initially be a space where Vecna and El will interact/communicate. While gone, I feel like we will eventually have resolution with Eddie, his innocence, and (hopefully) some correction on the part of the religious right, extreme fanatics. Duffers have said before that chances are very high Kali comes back - very exited for that, especially as her and El’s powers combined will likely be needed. Looking fwd to Erica and Lucas’s relationship developing as partners/teammate peers/siblings. For all of her awesome sass, it could get old, and likely wouldn’t be as pronounced as they both grow out of adolescence. I’m thinking we will see more of Suzie, not only for her brainy abilities, but, as they will be older in S5, she may be able to break free from some of the restraints of her childhood. Of course, I don’t think the series could end w/o her and Dustin eventually being in the same physical space, again. The younger kids likely being in the college in the 90s opens up a lot more possibilities, in terms of geography. 2024, why are you so far away?!

  • I got a lot of Avengers: Infinity War vibes from Season 4. I predict season 5 will involve time travel.

  • @5:22 - if the duffer brothers have/will write the storyline like what you predicted. It would make the most sense that it will be Mike who dies. When you look at what eleven made will paint for Mike he symbolizes the heart of the campaign the driving force,the thing that gives the group together the purpose and I think with that symbolim it show that he would make the ultimate sacrifice and he would do it in such a fashion that would mean he would be completely gone and in maybe the most traumatic way for the team, and especially eleven and could be in a way that's beyond her powers. And I wouldn't be surprised with what/how the duffer brothers could write that, that that will be the very thing that made the executives cry.🥺

    • Mike is the heart but i think eleven is the most courageous of them all and would 100% put the entire town before herself

    • My theory to add to this is I reckon will could be likely to become a villain throughout season 5 if there is an unrequited love situation going on between him and Mike maybe also adding to his loneliness he's had since being in the down under and how's that's changed him that could also come into play if Mike has to sacrifice himself so will doesnt become evil/destroy Hawkins or however that could be written and that could somehow also stop eleven from reviving Mike.

  • There is no way this show ends with Will and Eleven making it out alive!

  • Will will turn into a villain in this season just like billy. His main motivation will be for being the outcast

  • Guys remember in the end of Season 1 when the kids play DnD, and arguing that the campain was nonsense ? They mentioned a knight, a princess, and a cave with mysterious flowers. Well, what if Hopper is the knight, Joyce the princess, the cave is the library and the flowers are vecna's nerves spreaded accross the upside down version of Hawkins ? That would explain why the center of the giant Gate is located at the library. Something in Season 1 must have happened when will was stick in that place and connected to the plants. Since Will Can still feel the stranger things happening about the upside down, he is probably connected somehow. This season brought many psychologic elements, so I believe that vecna set 1983 to upside down's Hawkins clock based on Will's trauma about being kidnapped and all the stuff he endured during season 1. That would give us another piggyback arc in Season 5, about the Gang heading to the library to destroy whatever is causing this mess since the beggining.

  • It'd be amazing if the spin off was about Enzo or Murray because they kind of just dropped them off at the end of volume 2 without a clue of what happened to them.

  • What if Max comes back as Vecna? I just have a feeling he will use her body to return.

  • I was reading theories about the time jump in season five, when realization hit me: all it takes is one year forward (1987) to have the stranger things time line coexist with Rick Astley's "never gonna give you up" and now all I can think of is rickrolling Vecna 😅

  • "The Battle of Hawkins" should be a Episode for Season 5

    • Yeah just like S3’s episode finale battle of star court

    • "The Battle For Humanity" is more likely.

    • @Adrian Ocampo I'd rather have 3 episodes for the final stretch with more total runtime than a 3 hour finale rather than a rushed finale like we saw this season.

    • @Adrian Ocampo three hours long just for good characters to die I’d hope not

    • @Adrian Ocampo maybe, u never know with the duffers

  • Well given her new ability to bring back life, I assume her demise will be a sacrifice she makes.

  • Honestly for me, my dream season 5 finale is the whole gang playing D&D one last time before they go to college.

  • In comment box there are so many theories that people are predcting for season 5. Its making me more excited...m eagerly waiting for next season 😍

  • Why do I have the feeling the Mind flayer will use Will as its host again, Will is lonely through out the season, even Jonathan his brother notices it. As far as I know, Vecna searches the mind who are weak and have guilt. I don't know but I have the strong feeling Will will be part of it at Season 5.

  • Why do I have the feeling the Mind flayer will use Will as its host again, Will is lonely through out the season, even Jonathan his brother notices it. As far as I know, Vecna searches the mind who are weak and have guilt. I don't know but I have the strong feeling Will will be part of it at Season 5.

  • Why do I have the feeling the Mind flayer will use Will as its host again, Will is lonely through out the season, even Jonathan his brother notices it. As far as I know, Vecna searches the mind who are weak and have guilt. I don't know but I have the strong feeling Will will be part of it at Season 5.

  • Why do I have the feeling the Mind flayer will use Will as its host again, Will is lonely through out the season, even Jonathan his brother notices it. As far as I know, Vecna searches the mind who are weak and have guilt. I don't know but I have the strong feeling Will will be part of it at Season 5.

  • I hope the duffer brothers are planning something more apocalyptic with an invasion of monsters with an end of the world and a cataclysm me that's what I will see in season 5 of Stranger Things

  • Once Vecna dies, I’ll say it again, *the Witness* will come to the Sol system. They have seen Vecna’s destruction and they are *Humanity’s salvation.*

  • Duffers are so artistic man. Will was the MVP of volume 2. He inspired oblivious mike to let him know that he is the heart of the group. Mike told el that he loves her when she was at her weakest point. The whole cast was fantastic this season. Duffers basically increased the level. Now i am curious to see how will they top this season.

  • I remember in the very first episode of S1, Will passed by a sign for Hawkins Lab about how its a restricted area. I also know that S4 takes place in 1986, the same year Chernobyl happened. What if the gang defeats Vecna, but the military comes in, evacuates all residents and isolates the town of Hawkins from the world forever by gating off all roads leading into Hawkins with a sign like the one Will passed, stating its a restricted area

  • It will be hard for me to watch s5 without eddie.. at the same time i'm excited !!!

  • Please keep in mind mike said “you an freaking fly You can move mountains! I believe in you !” After the dr aka papa said “you cannot fly and you need to fly to beat him”

  • I think Mike and Will might wonder if 11 brought Max back to life. When Lucas said it was a miracle and doctor couldn't explain it is when Mike and Will look at each other and then at 11. I bet Max's mind/consciousness is trapped with/in Vecna and she won't make it back to her body until they take Vecna out.

  • Episode 8 was by far one of the best written of all.

  • I believe the whole town will join together to fight the Upside Down.

  • That show was EPIC!!! Justice for Eddie! What a Hero :'(

  • I dont think she has healing powers, I think she just used her powers to make the heart pump blood again.

  • They've said that there is going to be a significant time jump for season 5 and I've heard it could jump all the way to the 90's even. Do you have any thoughts on how they might do this? It seems pretty hard to do as the danger seems very imminent so why and how would there be a 3-4 year time jump?

    • @ziad they've said they're doing the time jump so that the kids ages in the show are closer to the actual ages of the actors so I'm pretty sure the time jump will include most of the season

    • maybe the time jump will be at the end of the show to see what everyone is doing some in college and some are married stuff like that

    • @Lavender Chants that sound like a pretty good guess, I like that

    • The time jump will be however long it takes for Vecna to regenerate his body. During that time, the Upside Down will be seeping slowly into Hawkins like the scene where the plants were dying. There may be some monsters coming through, but not the full invasion force until Vecna is ready again. It's also possible that Eleven saving Max has an effect on the gates that slows down the invasion, which would result in Vecna targeting Max in the hospital to finish her off, but I think it is more likely that El will try to enter Vecna's mind to save Max at some point.

    • @S K ok makes sense, that just means nothing super significant will happen over that time period right?